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please help

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:22 pm
by Anonymous
Please can some one help :shock: at the moment im screwed!

started car and it did not rise, stop light one and no noise from the pump.

put it in high setting, still no joy.

Then after a minute or so it went up :D

But the pump (i think it is) the one on the right hand side of the engine just down from the dist is making a knocking noise :evil:

Any idea's anyone

can i service this part? or shall i get to the scrap yard asap and get a couple of them?


Big thanks for any help, im screwed if the 16v packs up

Cheers

Adrian

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:16 pm
by AlanS
Not a real big problem; thay all tend to knock and carry on when they are pumping up. This usually stops when the P/R cuts out.
The lazy start up is usually caused by the supply hose to the pump, the larger one that runs from the LHM tank to the pump. The hose clip on it originally was of the non re-useable variety. Given the age of the car, if this is still there it needs to be replaced with a jubillee clip and the last3/8 - 1/2 inch trimmed off so it's a tighter fit on the fitting at the tank. This is also the hose you will need to take off to prime the pump after you do the LHM change.
I usually find that if I ever get a height corrector a bit lazy, that shaking the car at the front (and at the rear too if I get a bit panicky) is a good way of getting them to move a bit faster.
I'd suggest you have a look via the "Search" facility here oron the French Car Forum for details on how to change the hydraulics, suspension articles and bleeding brakes. Very simple once you know how, but a minefield when you do the first couple.

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/i ... b2ec61d913


Alan S

stop

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:44 pm
by Toddman
Sounds like low LHM level to me - this will make the pump more noisy than usual and make the car slow to rise.

A common problem is dirty return filters this often makes the car slow to rise also.

Hope it is just low LHM

Cheers
Luke

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:16 pm
by MoRtYMer
Couldn't be the height correctors in a need for some cleaning?

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:15 am
by robin hughes
If you do change the hp pump you can only use one that has come off a 16v. the 16v pump is different to others as it has a smaller diameter wheel on it compaired to others

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:25 am
by Anonymous
Big thanks for the advice guys. just getting a cupa then its tools out time.

Will check all of the mentioned points and fingers crossed will get it sorted.

Got a new burst of energy after seeing Phills fantastic silver gti :D

Cheers

Adie

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:37 pm
by Anonymous
update

rite I think ive found the problem, the fluid was low, topped up and now works as it did.

Although found that it is leaking from the return pipe on the passenger side strut.

Ive done a search and had no joy are they replacible?

Sorry for the million questions

Cheers
Adie

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:15 pm
by Timmo
they are replaceable! depending on where it has gone though!! you may be able to snip off the leaking bit and rejoin it???

BX

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:31 pm
by Toddman
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Which bit is leaking Adie the black rubber part or the translucent hard pipe?
The rubber part is replaceabke as is th ehard part - in fact I have a pair of brand new rubber strut returns in my shed will take apic if oyu like.

Cheers
Luke

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:23 am
by Anonymous
Thanks for the responce chaps,

its the black pipe, i have tried to re-join it with a section of hose and clips but its snapped too close to where the two pipes merge into one and go into the strut.

Im after the two rubber pipes that join the metal pipes one end and reduce into one and go to the strut, where they go into the strut it turns into a rectangle shape and has a metal clip over it.

Luke if you have a picture that would be a massive help

Cheers

Adie

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:10 am
by Adrian E
Is it an actual pipe failure, or has it been pushed off by excessive pressure in the return line? I only mention it, as excessive pressure is most likely caused by knackered strut seals/bearings.

If it is simply a case of the pipe splitting then new ones are not expensive, although fitting can be a pig to get the clip tight enough.

Adrian

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:30 am
by Anonymous
Hi Adrian

its a case of split pipe, the pipes are still attached to the metal ones.

I thought that clip looked tricky :evil:

Cheers
Adie

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:31 pm
by thanuttiscotsman
hi 16vadie,
i have had a few axperiences with changing these. firstly if your near a scrappers its worth getting them there because they are easy to get off and often i find very good ones. as for fitting them, the way citroen designed them is crap, dont try to fit them with the silly little clips they might work on your tenth attempt. the best thing to do is to use the little metal face plate that sits on the chunky part of the rubber pipe. use that it helps alot. but the only way to get a good seal is some glue and a rather large jubilee clip. thats what i did ith my car. jubilee clips are very strong and dont strech etc.

cheers rossco :wink:

strut

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:53 pm
by Toddman
Here are the rubber strut returns Adie

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I would think they are still available and not too expensive

Cheers
Luke

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:56 pm
by Mike P
I'm sure as well that they are still available, about £12 IIRC, with the metal clip about the same cost :evil:

Mike P.