16V (nice and tidy valves) no more troubles

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:40 pm

Allrighty then.

Today finally we could do the compressiontest, and the compression of this fabulous engine is: 0-0-0-6 bar

Not too hopefull as you can see.

I took the head of the engine and found 14 bent valves, 2 valves seemed allright, but all in all this one's been rubbished.

Possibly I can purchase a much better cilinderhead from a Dutch forum member, and otherwise I'll have to replace the valves.
Anyway, I'm halfway now, so my guess is that before the end of the month this valver will be running happily ever after.... well untill the next thing does come up that is

Here are some pics:

thanuttiscotsman · Post by **thanuttiscotsman** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:53 pm

bad luck matey! will it take you long ti fix?

rossco

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:22 pm

Thanks m8!

wether I'll be able to fix it soon depends if I'm going to be able to get a good cilinder head.
On the other hand, if not and if I order new valves, the next day I'll receive them, and the loca Citroen dealer is friendly enough to lend me their device which holds the valvesprings (obviously I can't recall the english word for that

) so I can replace the valves.

But my guess is that this valver will run as should before the end of the month.

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:19 pm

so she went out in style then hey!!! 14 out of 16 is good going!!!
make sure you do the do the valve stem seals whilst you have the valves out!

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:27 pm

Yeah good point! those aren't too expensive either.
What about the hydraulic plungers? I reccon I have enough of them (32 at the moment) what do you suggest? check the best, clean and place them? or are they worn out easily? both cilinderheads I've got loose right now have done about 250K (KM's) and both of them got smashed.

ed_straker · Post by **ed_straker** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:40 pm

14 of 16....not bad

Good luck, but i know you'll get it fixed.

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:04 pm

Thanks! And some good news, today I found a good cilinderhead on internet, without cams but a with very nice price just 100 euro's so I'm just gonna place the cams from the old head on the new one and put it al together. Hopefully this valver will start its 2nd life somewhere next week!

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:19 am

good price matey! ideal if its as good as it sounds then! cheap repair on the cards! still worth doing the stem oil seals though! i didnt when i redid mine (even though i had them) and now they really need doing!! sod's law hey!

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:05 pm

True true

If needed I'm gonna do them for certain!
But the story of this bloke is that he was an advanced hobbyist, but got into some new hobby's (house, wife, kids)
So no more money or time for the pug's!
Apparently he had this tuned 309 with adjustable cams, and just to be sure he held this head on stock if for any reason he had to exchange it. According to him it should be good as new.

Also he has a brand new stock cilinderhead, that has never been used for sale. Couldn't do anything with it though, no valves, springs, cams, etc. installed. But my guess is he's pretty serious about his hobby's when you've got something like that laying around.

But tomorrow I'll see what we'll get.

The headgasket, as well as inletmanifoldgasket en stretchbolts are ordered and waiting for us to be picked up and hopefully next week we'll put the puzzle back together.

Glad though that I've got a valver myself, if I cant recall where one of the 200 plugs or hoses should be I can allways dive under my own bonnet

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:45 pm

hahah! yeah can be a pita remembering where they all go hahaha!
but oh so peasing when it fires up after youve bunged it all back to gether! (mine took a while to build up the compression and then fired up Lovely!)

ed_straker · Post by **ed_straker** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:59 pm

I've found a cylinder head among my spare parts. So if the other ones crappy you could have mine. From an engine that ran about 80.000kms only. And for less money

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:07 pm

Thanks m8!
Really appreciate the offer! I'll keep it in mind!
Where exactly do you live in Germany? I live just on the border (Roermond).

@Timmo, I know I know

but indeed I'll be very happy when she's alive again, good thing I was bright enough this time to mark most of the cables and hoses and put the screws in labelled cups. So far so good, but its A LOT to fix

ed_straker · Post by **ed_straker** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:59 pm

I live near Dortmund, ca. an hour from Duisburg.

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:13 pm

Ah in the Ruhr area,
I've been a lot in Dortmund when I had a Hungarian girlfriend.
Allways flew from Dortmund to Budapest.
That's not too far from Roermond, besides allmost all the autobahn between Roermond and Dortmund is limitless, giving me an excelent chance to drive like a maniak

If the cilinderhead that we're going to see tomorrow is okay, than still I think we should meet, my mate to whom this valver belongs will be eager to test his BX, and I'm very anctious to compare my (332.000KM LPG 158PS) PH2 16V to his (220.000KM RON98 160PS) PH1 16V
My guess is that his 16V will be throwing asphalt through my windshield... But hopefully the shorter gears from my 6-speeder make up for it a bit

mechuccio · Post by **mechuccio** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:48 pm

Runs like a charm

But quite the work though, much more than I expected it to be.
But after we've finished she started up really good! Well she smoked like a maniac from the exhaustmanifold, but after all the oil was burned there was no more smoke to discover

Very tired and very happy!

I've got some pics, but I'll post them later! first some food and mostly B-E-E-R

thank you, come again

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